He is now not always thinking about his clients best interest but sometimes his own. I answer all your post but you pick and chose. The key to looking at reviews, is spotting trends and facts that cant be disputed. Other than to enrich the agent. Because I do not sell just one product or nor am I captive to one company. By the way Whole life you do get the money, but the difference between the payout and the money has to be made up by the Insurance company. -. If only 2-3% of term insurance gets paid out, I like to see where you are pulling your data. If they are going to pay out any procedes early they are losing the use of some funds. I ahve already proved this in several areas, I love to see your termination notice. Tom, you twist facts and have the ability to not understand. And Since I am tiring trying to explain it to you. You know now you have to join Primerica. Awesome deal right? This is something that every competent adviser has said to stay away from, but James said it is a great thing. One of the referrals I gave to my friend who was an agent, had some term that was good. SM. 90 are dependent or still working. Now that is scary.). , Now since all these companies sell cash value, the problem is they are doing as a loss leader. Put up or shut up. IT is the one reason why they got closed down. I am a sales forces owner. I knwo I rather stay in a hotel that has a high standard than the cheapest one. Primerica has been around a long time and is part of Citi a reputable company. What company do you work for? This is not the fiduciary duty to your client. It is also how many of the Financial Adisers stay in business, closing one office and creating a new one. Heres some more. I can even bet you signed a clause but did not know about it. Come on. Since it has not been decided yet, it all depends. Level one. They also use term as a loss leader, to get you as a client, and then they can call and mail you unlimitlessly. Just because I have information it makes me an agent. Well let me place it easy words. I am in a highly regulated field by the state DOI. Finally, I will add two pointsthis poster suffers from a middle-class mentality, and was unable to realize it and therefore they washed out of PFS. I mentioned about conversion of a term policy and the benefit if considering a life settlement and it seemed to get past you. I dont make a dime extra for all the people I have brought in and helped train. Since the government gives the tax benefits to Primerica Agents, I guess you are wrong here too. The only problem is you are playing magician. In your work what would happen to the person that did not follow his positions plan? I have shown why they are cheaper and why they do it. to address some of the negatives that are repeated thousands of times on the net. REMEMBER, the answers are pretty much what the trainer has told me, and I did very little research on them. Tomas, el burro sabe mas que tu. And if you were wrong in this post and before, why are you not wrong about everything you post? Whats the difference between good term and a bad term policy? Please dont stop your discussions; this is highly entertaining! The word is getting out about Primerica and when you read message boards on the internet its not always as favorable as people try to make it seem. -. See you at the top. This is only your license start up. Now you have said that there are companies that will refund some of the money, Please give us those companies name. (Ripoffreport.com) You will get a true picture. As for giving me the best service, I have been given better service than any of the companies that hold some of my money. Since I did not nor will I ever invest in companies that are inherently bad, like Cigarettes, South Africa during Apatheid, and other companies, and chose not to send my money that way. Most people are willing to pay more for not the cheapest product. And since it seems that you are not learning, I need to stop throwing pearls before the swine. 3. You know pick and chose what you want to talk about. And guess what? I do not know what agents you deal with, I can only account for myself. Michael is wrong about the 199 and 99 dollars and waht it covers. 10. Men are more expensive than women since the women live longer than men. Look at all those homeowners that had a choice, chose incorrectly, and are claiming foul. There is a limited choice of life insurance options and rates are reportedly high. I think toms loyalties are misplaced. Why would you need to do that if you were following the FNA? That can only be done by cash value insurance companies, and therefore are not able to be done by Primerica. It is something to think about. It will not be worth what they are going to try to sell it to you, so why have it.You mentioned if they have to qualify for the insurance medically. As for Denial, you need to at least go to a class or two so you can see how real businesses work. You are an independent. , As I said, Disability insurance is best bought from work. But then again If you noticed something, He chose the parameters. Noncaptive. You asked why selling only PFS is bad. They are like tics in ones flesh. So please refrain from using Christian terms. And the funny thing is most people should not. Yes you say find a entry level position in a reputable company but then I have to charge people $1500-$2500 and up in order for me to help them. When a company is growing your going to attract all kinds of people: including people that will be high pressure reps. Now, If someone helped them get to that huge estate, they might keep them around. Otr what Dave ramsey says about cash value. She was happy, bubbly and that excited me to become friends and all she said was the usual (Would you or anyone you know be interested in earning an extra $500 to $2000 a month? DUH!!! Again, whatever you can do in PFS, you can do better on the outside. That doesnt make any sense at all. So you do have pay him part of your money to get the training. You need to try harder. It is work. I am not getting the service I deserve, they cant find my plan, and have no record of it. It also feels like the different between a real medical doctor and a quack doctor. That is definitely not a team driven position. From what I understand I guess not. Tom as always you dont understand. And how much did it cost you? Are you planning are taking your toys and run home? . When are you going to get back on the what this Board is about? Hes entirely wrong. Our focus is to help families get into a better financial situation than they are currently. Please do not confuse me with any other James; this is the only post that I have written. Company C: $742 annually. Do you know why RVPs never waste their time here. -. This Tom fellow had it right. The PFS system is designed for massive recruiting. The bank who doesnt care about me or the person who is willing to come to my home on weekend. They know better, they know theyll feel and live better if they just took care of their weight issue.but guess what. Ranked #6 Banner Life Insurance Company 73.94 a month, Sells Cash value. (This has been proven to be one of the Mortgages that has caused the financial meltdown.) my question concerns citis current market position and the mlm people. They would love me to join them. Back to the shoe example. When someone response to your resume on careerbuilder they are looking to add a piece to the puzzle to better the business, same here. We got nothing back to bury him. And who it is good for. I did set an appointment because I was really unclear about why he would call an air conditioning mechanic and a housewife and say that they would make great managers at PFS. Never talks about PRODUCTS or the actualy mechanics of the business opportunity. The reason why I am responding to you is that I keep getting alerts when more posts are up and I cant help but read. Matter of fact, he was talking to one of the biggest groups of Christian leaders. , As, far as an agent putting a piece of paper on the top of the policy saying you can not cancel, I believe the state DOI would have an issue with and if you have proof of an agent doing that I would turn them in.You said, Sneaky things agents will do to cheat, lie and steal from their clients.. I post sites. Remember what Suze Orman said about people like them. An example of this is this Ed Slott guy. But, when a superior term, mortgage, or variable annuity comes along, now its all fluff like crusade and loyalty and such nonsense. This is typical of Insurance agents that cant take the heat. . Plus it is tax free since you already paid the taxes with after tax dollars. Outside of PFS with the right contract, the same new agent can have ownership of their clients. If you know of a sneaky agent that lies, cheats, and steals from their clients if you give the state that you live in I will give you the phone number to the DOI and you can do the honorable thing and turn them in. James said he has a home office. It is a meaningless statistic. Tom, just remember before you become the pot thats calling the kettle black, about my spelling again NPIB, you misspelled somethign and doe sthe and you upper cased the n in ANd and IN. ADA Statement How many of these consumers would buy a bed, but never get to sleep on it? But for everyone else that you help to train, and usually their legs too, you get to keep a leg. To be honest, Primerica as a whole and under the right training really does put the consumer first. If not please give me a link here and I will check it out. Between church activities, loved ones, and my current job, I just felt that I wasnt able to put enough time/effort into Primerica. They would get fired wouldnt they? 1. Three and finally, you did not know the difference between a sales person and an adviser. 3. Now if they need more services, they are your clients. Just go make money for you and your family. Can a person make big money at Primerica. Refunds must be requested in writing and sent to: LICENSING Refunds, Primerica, 3100 Breckinridge Blvd., Building 400, Duluth, GA 30099-0001, by fax to (770) 564-5092, Attention Refund Department, or by email to [emailprotected]. Well all that business you put on the books at PFS is theirs for two years after you leave. I give people more credit than perhaps others. Does the agent refer the client to another agent? Like I keep telling you Price really only matters in the absence of value. *****The biggest is AIG. These are the small buyers, those that were not knowledgeable about these items. Primerica has a hybrid busienss model and wrapped into one compnay cant help but be number one. (Thats Marketing 101, another lesson Ill teach you another time). higher ratings Oh you mean the long de-mutualized company which is Is the money different? Indexed Annuities are ok they are better than a fixed one but still limited. Just dont put retarded stuff on the internet and shoot darts in the dark hoping your internet slander will really make a difference cuz you just seem like a whole life agent trying to stay above water. Which is better for the agent? And Four policies. Michael has asked for comparisons, but no takers. How interest really works, and how to make the most of your money. There are a lot of people who always say good things, even when they are bad and vice versa. $0 in your account for the first 1 to 7 years. It was funny that a guy try to sell him cash value life insurance right before he died for estate preservation. You have been tooting this Ed Slot Character alot. b) longer guarantees It allows someone to understand the fundamentals of building a business without having to put out a massive amount of cash to obtain it. Now I can understand that you might never saw this since your opinions are from looking in from the outside. Something to think about for Mr. BMP..Primerica is a captive company so you will be only able to offer whatever products they say you can offer. But most people call a sale when are are trying to get someone to buy something. They made a choice. They would run from you. Again you miss the point. So, somehow being a broker came to be one of my options after being a lawyerwhich i LOVE, LOVE LOVE law and so I began my quest. Along my journey in school I took a summer job in desktop technical support (trying out different things) and met my upline. First you do not know the level of training. They know they can make 2 to 15 times more on the cash value policies. YES..I RESEARCHED FOR SIX MONTH ( a bit irrational but Ill make my point, soon.) Again You are wrong. . Let me compare it to something you might be able to understand. -. Then they try to get those people to take out a loan or buy some investment thats supposed to help them clear up debt. It is less expensive and usually is the better deal. And Since James already admits his is a free email address, that is the best way to hide the true identity. Where did the cash value go to in many of the policies? All those who did not raise your hands, go out and have an EEG to see if your brain is working. Maybe you might want to proof read your post. But then again why not buy term and invest the difference? most are owned by cash value companies.If you want to know these companies do your own research. Annually I found out many people are losing money in their investment programs and it may take years to recover. If you would like to consider helping out yourself give Michael a call.. That is when they know they are going to lose money on a product, sell it at LOSS, so they can get money somewhere else. Exactly how is it that you can do better? Name a time that anyone could not use an extra spare job tire. Well I did a search on your Name for a license in state of California, It did not come up. I like my Insurance being handled not by the cheapest but by the most competent. -. But you can be asked to leave for many reasons.Securities is one reason. Primerica teaches working families simple money management concepts. Its FOR the individual who is MOTIVATED to get off his butt and change his life for the better by using a vehicle that provides Federal/State Professional Licenses to his disposal. The Good ones dont care if theres clauses or guidelines because we dont have anything to hide. Now, I could tell people what a crappy car Mercedes is, or I could just tell the truthI had a bad experience with mine, but based on MBs track record of success and lengthy history, I think you stand a pretty good shot at owning a very fine automobile. Sounds like heresay and oppinion to me. ahve You mean getting all the licenses? I would pay more a month to make sure my family is well taken care of when Im here and when Im gone. All OWNERS who have franchises get a percentage of what that franchise brings in as part of their agreement to represent the company. I have the ability to offer more than just life products. You keep saying prove him wrong. Im supposed to get my trainer guy in front of 6 families and let him do the talking blah blah. The 70 year old should be retired, and their for needs no insurance. You cannot lose. What about if theres a divorce or some requirement for a life policy, can a PFS agent suggest an Annuity and a Return Of Premium Term Policy. If youre commenting on my thinking I know everything, I actually didnt say that. They know better, they know theyll feel and live better if they just took care of their weight issue.but guess what. I should not be double or triple charged for using part of something I paid for. If he is making that amount (900K) from personal production I would hate to see what he can do on the outside. And why are MLM bad? Beingt Independent may be the best thing sicne sliced bread, but if you cant afford it, what is the difference. Let me tell yourun from Primerica, I invest 1200.00 a year with them and I lose 200.00 of that money every year for the past 3 years. Age: June 15, 1969 The agents themselves could be very good at what they do but they get paid on what i would call a laddering effect. Meanwhile, qualitative variables also have two specific categories namely nominal and ordinal variables. I am an independent part-time non-captive licensed agent. Withdrawing more than alloted %, does NOT break the rider. Just remember you said this. there is no requirement for anyone to do a Term to perm. Switch to Mobile view . That is why so many of these other agents attack Primerica. I know some of them cause I use them, and means more of my money will be going to my heirs instead of a cash value salespersons pocket. As you know thats where the absence of value quote comes into play. sure you may lose some money in life insurance sales. Any one else who tells you differently is lying. The RVP told me on average per person youll make $300-$500 which aint bad. I mean it ahs cost CitiGroup and Citi, many millions of dollars for selling things to wrong people, not fully disclosing. Convertible and guaranteed is what makes a policy a good term policy. Again Where are you getting your information? should the clerk tell you, You can get that cheaper at Wal-Mart? Having a person come to my house and take in consideration all financial factors in my purchase is better to me then buying the cheapest policy off the internet. Its policy design. Those are her words. (5% chance there.) His sales pitch how my wife and I would be a great managers working for PFS. They come out and answer questions as needed on items they are not making money. One has to do with the scope of underwriting. Meaning it was all talk and no MEAT ( Meaning Gods word). . First, Hitler was a great leader. He is normally not that way, so I kind of wonder if maybe he was coached to say that. Or did you forget the S and L problems. . We have the same rules that Primerica has about poaching. In 2022, MOE announced that these different subject levels would be labelled G3, G2 and G1, mapped from todays Express, N(A) and N(T) standards. If one was to read your posts, they would find you very Untruthful. James did a very good job refuting toms silly claims. var d=new Date();var year=d.getFullYear();document.write("©"+year+" Primerica"); And there have been recient rumors about us getting our own ticker and not being with Citi anymore and its very true. If it is any of those that sell cash value, the point is mute. Some are guaranteed so he can keep it. Aig has not had two quarters but three quarters of losses. 3. Isnt the so Michael? But some reasons for it is to protect the clients interest, otherwise some bad agents that every company could have would make a commission from a product sale and leave right away to another company to sell the same clients again for another commission(Doubledipping). But then again his real name is not Michael but Thomas. I could go on about good debt and bad debt but I think you get the picture, I hope. ANd you need to be completely independent. -. But then again James has already stated that if he ever did anything unethical, like taking his wallet over his clients needs, he would quit. I wouldnt want to do that, as I explained in my previous post. This is how come people are asking about ROP. I believe that those who have posted on this site in opposition of Primerica, led by the likes of Michael Thomas, have put forth many thought-provoking tid-bits of information to consider. Nope . I thought he doesnt work for PFS? If you are taking someone getting 0 to 3% rate of return and show them how to get 8% or more, that is education. Not all insurance products and services are available in all states. And Since you are harping on recruiting, ever sales is a recruiting pitch. Its not so much the products. 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