Also, any assembly consuming the part will have N/A. They have a browser representation, have properties such as quantity, BOM Structure, Part Number, and so on. This option works, but only if you save it few times (at least 2), BUT if any sub-model is changed after top assembly is released, it will always need to update for the new mass, except if you "quick change" whole structure from changed part and above, which can be really time consuming and not effective. You select geometry to add, subtract, or exclude from the resulting derived component. This options should at least save proper mass, if you save it once and release it, but it does not, if it is not saved correctly as you described and as in above pictures. And, the assemblies will need to be recomputed. It seems that the most logical way to approach this would be to use promote and demote. Most often when I'm doing this I'm removing subassembly_A and subassembly_B from the top level assembly, so I delete them from the assembly at this point. Report 0 Likes Reply 6 REPLIES Message 2 of 7 jhackney1972 Share your knowledge, ask questions, and explore popular Inventor topics. Then you can promote the components from the copies of A and B, then demote them into a new subassembly C. This will remove the components from the copied subassemblies, but since they are only copies, you still have your originals intact and all is well. Check you have setting properly set "Update physical properties on save (Parts and Assemblies)" Create the new empty assembly and save it. We have "Recomputable update" set to yes. It might help to set the subassembly_A and subassembly_B files to read-only before starting this process, just to be safe. Changes in a model state affect the envelope size. Hey, yeah and MLT file have some more edit possibilities to edit but stil not perfect, any suggestions what kind of file best to be using if you dont beed any connectivity to assembly and at the same time very good to edit? So solution is to not use the Application Options for this but write an add-in that does the calculation only if the file is checked out and not Read-only. Extend Simplification Panel and choose Create simplified Part. Enter a meaningful name for the new part file. It is stored in the assembly file. Thanks for pointing out new information, but I think this is a different issue. It was also set the same in example above. Change the part a bit so it gets dirtied (also assembly will get dirtied). Is this possible? Then, I have to fix all the references. A derived assembly (not in LT) component originates from an assembly file and may contain parts, subassemblies, and derived parts. Go to Solution. To begin, create a part file. It is because the feature recipes and the parameters are already captured (saved), the mass prop can be evaluated when the geometry becomes up-to-date. When accessed from the BIM Content environment, theOutput Type is locked to Substitute. Do not sell or share my personal information, Activate one of the components/part file in the assembly where the feature appears. How can I save the assembly to a folder, and have it save all it's referenced parts/assemblies to that folder as well in a way where I don't have to go back and fix the references? I need to search again for it but I am sure the mass is first written internally to the assembly and the part before it is written to the Physical Property, and there it goes wrong. Assembly features are features that show up in the assembly drawing and not in the part file. This page has been translated for your convenience with an automatic translation service. Click the Representations tab to select a Design View, Positional, and Level of Detail representation. Going back to the original Derived Component idea, you can Suppress Link or even Break Link with the original. Standard parts and iParts about your issue and find the best support option save these pieces a. Welcome to Autodesks Inventor Forums. Then I simply promoted the components I needed. This is one of the thing between the theory and the practice. Or ifyou like something that was saidand it was helpful, Kudosare appreciated. If you save the assembly again (without save dialog for multiple files), it will update the mass with no problem. Go to Solution. Hello all. If you have any questions do not hesitate to ask. When the command starts the active model state, design view, and position view populate the Initial State group. Go to Tools -> App Options -> Save -> "Mass Prop Update", "Implicit Update", or "Recomputable Update" -> set it to Yes. Let me walk through the process of updating mass prop. If you prefer, you can make the constraint adaptive by setting an option on the Assembly tab of the Application Options dialog box. In the Open dialog box, browse to the part file (IPT) to use as the base part or component (not available in Inventor LT), and click Open. At assembly level, the mass is aggregated from the parts (per quantity per Reference). Only iMates for top-level assemblies may be derived. Verify that you have selected needed bodies, sketches, work geometry, parameters, and representations, and then click OK. This is not correct. The Simplify command creates either a derived solid or a derived surface composite part from an assembly. Do not sell or share my personal information. Model State. Hope you understand the issue here and maybe it is more or less only needed when using Vault and released files. Creates a multi-body part that retains selected components as individual solid bodies. If the option is set to No, the files will not be prompted to saved. Upvote 1 Upvoted 2 Downvote 11 Downvoted 12 Arthur Kim Answered on 4 Apr, 2016 02:43 AM IF YOU MAKE ONE SOLID PART IN ASSEMBLY THEN USE MERGE IN COMPONENT OPERATION. Privacy | Do not sell or share my personal information | Cookie preferences | Report noncompliance | Terms of use| 2023 Autodesk Inc. All rights reserved, Factory Design Suite 2018, Inventor 2018, & Product Design Suite 2018. file you have exported from AutoCAD. If required, click Select from Base to allow graphical selection of components from the base component window. Usually, you set this option once as a workflow preference. If required, select the check box to keep seams between planar faces. Open the destination assembly, expand the Model States folder, right-click the Substitutes folder, expand New Substitute, click Select Part File, and browse to the part file on disk. Perhaps you can just save the original assembly as a new assembly and simply remove the unwanted parts. To translate this article, select a language. Delete the assembly feature from the assembly file as it's no longer needed. Welcome to Autodesks Inventor Forums. I've done a bit of research on it and I don't believe this particular question has been asked before. If the base part contains a single body, creates a single body part. This is not an official translation and may contain errors and inaccurate translations. Specify the maximum diagonal value for a bounding box. It does not update the mass of the top assembly in case there is a save dialog for multiple documents. Creates a derived part as a single surface composite which retains the appearance of the original components. However, doing this on your existing subassemblies will modify them, which you specifically said you don't want to do. Ask the community or share your knowledge. https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/inventor-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2016 You could use the copy tool in the assembly environment. Or select "Break Link" to permanently break the dependency. If some settings could be changed only by admin, that would be great in Inventor! Choose from. Sketches that are not shared or consumed by features are included in the base component. It seems update on physical properties on save (Parts and Assemblies) setting does not work properly. I'm open to suggestions for doing this another way, I just need a way to create an exploded view from components already in place but in separate assemblies. I'm Inventor has a similar feature. Regards, Igor. You now have a part file that is a dependent copy of an assembly file. Items marked with this symbol are ignored in updates to the derived part. Excludes element in the derived part. Also if the file is already released this mass is alwasys written tot the part or assembly without checking if the file is editable in Vault terms. Glad you were able to find resolution to your issue. If you must relocate the part later, you can delete the constraint. In Solidworks, there is an option to save an assembly as a part. If you browse to the folder where you are saving the copy of your Assembly, you will see all the little parts being created. The reduced detail decreases memory consumption. 20. When I go to save the new assembly I get told Older Version file, and saving will convert the files tot he current version. Part now has mass updated, but assembly does not. If unchecked, the appearance is set to default appearance of the target part. Okay lets take the "can't change anything" out of there. I have lurked around for quite a bit on the forums, and have learned so much already just from observing. The iProperties command is available for in-place editing of an assembly as well as in-place editing of a part. I notice that when I save the .iam file, it saves all its referenced parts to my User/Documents/Inventor folder instead of the same folder as where I am saving the .iam file. Go to Solution. I hope this helps.Best of luck to you in all of your Inventor pursuits,Curtishttp://inventortrenches.blogspot.com, Forum links:Inventor iLogic , API and Customization Forum|Inventor Ideas Forum |General Inventor Forum. Choose either, To select all occurrences of the selected item click the. Go to Solution. Can't find what you're looking for? Hey, yes and no. Your choice!!! Create a part or a virtual part in an assembly, Multiple components with older versions reference, Do not sell or share my personal information. today we are see how to export all parts & format any assembly watch it open file (Assembly) goto menu click to save as select pack and go select destination folder (path like:. i have the same issue, but i don't understand way it need to be so complicated. Whenever a part geometry is changed, the mass will need to be recomputed. For part instances the instance number is iterated which yields "Part1:1", "Part1:2", and so on. What I can remember is that the Mass property shown is stored on two different places internally and there sometimes it goes wrong. How to convert an Inventor Assembly to Part? I hope that the development team is aware! I see a real big progress in the newest version of Inventor of course, regarding the application options. If a sketch is active when you create the part, click Return to close the sketch. 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