I got to certain sections and told him I have to say "yes" to these questions and I knew how important they were. I am going into the marines and have a contract to go to security school where you need a TS if you complete it. These include conditions like depression, bipolar disorder, epilepsy, heart issues, Asperger's, and PTSD. Now the most commonly performed eye laser surgery, LASIK involves creating a partial-thickness corneal flap and using an excimer laser to ablate the bed of the cornea. So I'm trying to go into USMC and I have been talking with this recruiter for a few months now. If it won't come up again or if you don't need a TS-SCI, you can get away with not telling. I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if it's a no go or not . Everyone I know lied about something, he'll if everyone was honest about drug use there wouldn't be a military. Keratinous is NOT trifling; it is the major cause for corneal transplant in the US-a very expensive medical issue. He hadn't told them he had lasik. I was at SOI-West last summer. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. So I handed all of my medical and education records that he said to not worry about to the recruiter. You're assuming her recruiter didn't know With the rise of electronic medical records it'll become extremely hard to lie for meps. Handle this the right way, as you should all things. As long as you werent taking the pills within 90 days it wont pop up so just dont talk about them. This comment has been overwritten by this open source script to protect this user's privacy. So you want to start a career founded on integrity by lying? TL; DR Anyone with experience of LASIK eye surgery documentation sent to MEPS. I've done the 1 month check and will do the 6, 3 months is coming up so I'll have to get that on the books. Also, if that user name is actually your name it's a sign that you might not really be very good at this subterfuge thing. I was still in high school, wrecked my car and tore up my hand a few weeks later, was medically discharged :/. About 3 years before joining the Air Force, his cousin attempted suicide. Good luck to you. Ive had the doctor write two letters and both have not been good enough. Do you really think your little writeup is going to convince anyone dead set on lying? I think the chief issue is your pattern of distrust..and confidence in superiors. KUDOS! Here is the Press Release. Just something to think of. JavaScript is disabled. For questions like "Have you ever had mental health counseling?" Because of his failure to disclose his medical history at MEPS and it's discovery while he was on Medical Hold, he was administratively discharged from the Air Force without completing BMT for Fraudulent Enlistment. Applicants often need further evaluation or counseling before they can live the rigorous and stressful military lifestyle. Lying will. Anyone with any experience or advice? And yet when the recruiter tells them to lie so he doesn't have to do paperwork they always believe him that no one will find out. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. If you lie about it at MEPS, and get Lying at MEPS, HIPAA and security clearances. Your Recruiter will not be the one getting in troubleit will be you. What I love is everyone parrots RECRUITERS ALWAYS LIE. One guy kept getting ahold of his prrsonal items somehow and got caught playing a saxophone in the barracks. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I know I have to be able to function without medication and I can, but have not been consistently been of the medication simply because of the existence of standardized tests should I lie to my recruiter and say that while I have such a prescription I have been off it for atleast the minimum time period states or should I be honest because in reality it doesnt take a long time to get off a medication completely atleast for ADHD medications which are stimulants and what they dont know wont hurt them because my ADHD does not really effect me much at all anymore. Don't worry, you'll be fine, I had no issues. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didnt they found it at meps . When did the AF start allowing pilots that have had LASIK? Lied at meps now need TS clearance - ClearanceJobs Blog Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. You need to disclose it. It allows MEPS to see your entire Electronic Health Record (EHR). Firearm Discussion and Resources from AR-15, AK-47, Handguns and more! Did I Lie at MEPS??! It may not display this or other websites correctly. Just get off the meds asap, and keep your shit together for however long your recruiter says you need to. I got disqualified for disclosing a medical issue. And more people are going to lie now that everyone is getting diagnosed with ADHD because they're not interested in school (and ADHD is a disqualifier). Lying will. Take the advice and think on it. !, Military Life and Issues, 8 replies Lying scumbag Johnson on MSNBC lying-no challenge from host, Elections, 31 replies Personally, go find another doctor that is ex-military that can weed through the BS. So its been about 2 weeks now and have been too scared to talk to him. Further investigation found she had a suicide gesture about 6 years earlier due to stress from a recently ended relationship, loneliness (had no friends for support), and academic struggles (failing some college courses). Processing Stations (MEPS) Your visit to a Military Entrance Processing Station (MEPS) determines your mental aptitude, as well as physical and moral qualifications for enlistment in the Army. I had lasik back in November and just had an enhancement to my left eye on Friday that I've been stressing about. My experience: I told the truth about something that should have been a non-issue. You have runs risk that a Soldier could not live with. The military is used to this, and they really don't care down the road. Yes, you need to be caught in the lie, but that isn't as difficult as you might think. He. So do you think the cost is worth the benefit? I think that I am going to just forget that it ever happened. After a long conversation with my doc he said there is no way for them to find out unless you tell them. The criminal background check and security clearance investigations can and do find sealed records. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/, https://www.public.navy.mil/netc/centers/ceneoddive/ndstc/documents/manmed_chap15.pdf. Station commander looked at my medical paperwork and said word-for-word: " You stick to the script. I went through in 2011 after Lasik. Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. Unless someone wants to send the mods proof of their M.D., and dig into medical history, you have no business declaring whether or not anyone's medical condition is non-serious, important, real, or anything else. Obviously I will tell them about my felony charge. You are using an out of date browser. (yes pretty much threw him and his boss underneath the bus). Option 2: Lie. Know how to find the right doctor. Do not attempt to interpret the questions your recruiter and MEPS will ask you--answer them as they are written. I feel like this is a test so see if I won't bother to accrue some letters regardless and I'm not sure what to do. 1. Do you think the risk of getting shit bags and future suicides is worth the chance that one of them might be decent? Press J to jump to the feed. Went to MEPS the next morning and everything was normal until medical debriefing. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. Looking at your previous 11 posts it looks like you might be joining the Marines. A magnifying glass. I lied at MEPs about multiple things, I don't think it has affected my ability to be a soldier. In another month, his symptoms and concerns had mostly resolved, and his cousin was also much better. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. Talk openly with your recruiter, MEPS staff, and your family. Stupid kids want the power, the prestige, the money, the sweet benefitsthe military has a lot to offer. I got both of these surgeries in order to be a seal, and would fucking hate if the reason I can't get in are the very surgeries I got in order to qualify for training. Lost the navigator slot and was made a C130 mechanic. Should I be honest with my recruiter and try to get a waiver? Finally, he was incorrectly interpreting the questions from his recruiter and MEPS to what he believed his own history was. We have been contacted by major union legal teams regarding this issue. The suicide counselor for the cousin recognized that our young man was confused and worried from his family's recent crisis. I swear I've met more dudes getting chaptered in the infantry for mental problems (like a few guys are mentally insane) than I ever imagined. If you are denied entry to the military, it is very possibly the best thing for both you and the government. Buy, Sell, and Trade your Firearms and Gear. So they just left that section blank and filled in the most recent appointment, making it look as if i never went in at all until just the other day. Unfortunately, she needed to go to sick call several times for persistent coughing. they'll find out if you need a Top Secret security clearance or if the issue comes up. They need to have a psychologist evaluate everyone at meps. In the end, I did everything I could to prove I was completely fine. They don't understand this stuff. Is your condition a liability to yourself or others? So what are the lessons from these stories? My dad said hell no, lost 60lbs and 6 years later has had zero knee pain. A recent post made me think of these questions. They don't pull up your records unless you need a clearance or unless it comes up. Learning has occurred - give it time to sink in. Because the military does not. I didn't mention it at the physical, everything when fine. Integrity is what you do or how you act when no one is watching. By logging into your account, you agree to our. LASIK and LASEK are forms of corrective refractive eye surgeries, and both reshape corneas permanently. Fraudulent Enlistment. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. I was in the same spot. After boot camp is MCT where all Marines go regardless of MOS. Having inconsistencies on your forms vs verbal answers is usually a major issue and will make it very difficult for you to get into the Marines now. 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