How could that not be a stuffed animal? Ive probably seen him. That seems proven at this point. The chatter rose again after Allen sat down between his attorneys. We definitely need to look into this a lot further, thats for sure. One reason this particular homicide case came to national attention is the haunting cell phone and social-media clues the girls left behind. This young lady is a hero, theres no doubt, Indiana State Police Sgt. LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- New details have been released in the case of two young girls found murdered in Indiana five years ago. Its from a Youtube video of some guy who edited the publicly available helicopter footage. "That is correct.". The investigation is far from complete, Carter said new details and documents will not be released until deemed appropriate in the process. I myself have short lower legs and a long thigh area, so I noticed this right away. Theyre seeing whatever they want to see in him. According to court papers, Kline was temporarily moved from the custody of his local authorities and into the hands of ISP, the lead investigators in the Delphi murders, at around the same time the river search began. He was charged with a probation violation for driving with a suspended. Ronald Logan died Jan. 24, 2022. wishtv.com your home page, Business, Equity and Opportunities Podcast with Scott Sander, Myles Colvin captivates Heritage Christian crowds, preps for Purdue, Indiana wildlife expert on bald eagle killing: Its sad, IMPD policy on seized guns called into question, Indiana governor grants clemency to prisoner with inoperable brain tumor, 2 tornadoes confirmed in northern Hancock County. He does, as Carter warned, appear younger than he is. We now know who the FBI was looking into at first as a potential . Contact her at rfradette@indystar.com or follow her on Twitter at @Rachel_Fradette. Which I'm sure made finding the girls all that worse. Please correct me if you know otherwise. Until his arrest last week on two counts of first-degree murder, Allen, 50, had no prior criminal record. Delphi Murders Walkthrough via CrimeDoor The girls failed to meet Libby's father at the appointed time of 3:15 pm. The revelations come just two weeks after authorities released a redacted version of the probable cause affidavit that led to Richard Allen's arrest. Of course he knew who they were. I am close in age to Chadwell and I cannot imagine writing things like that. Instead he was with the team that found the bodies. You have a million people who come out and say OMG THERES JUST NO WAY A BIG STUFFED BEAR WAS LEFT AT THE CRIME SCENE ABSOLUTELY NOT. But even if LE told the searchers not to tell people what they saw that day, Im sure they can at least say whether or not something for sure wasnt there. Basically nobody in town except a few people who dont like him thinks he did it. Didnt know, I dont know the gentleman personally at all. They may have if they'd known the girls had been killed, but remember that until they found the bodies the worst they were prepared for was finding the girls badly injured or dead from exposure. Delphi was revenge for Flora. How many teams were present and which team found the girls? This is especially important with the heinous murders of Abby and Libby. that they must witness throughout their careers and how extremely difficult it must be to deal with. Why else do you think Carter would have said those things? Alt Left: Trotsky on Fascism: One of the Best Analyses of Fascism Ever Written, VIDEO: Danse Macabre! She said police hadn't contacted her about the search but had been for other significant developments. These VD animals are often holding a sign in their hands that says, I love you, or some such. Libby was 14 when she was murdered in 2017. We also believe that he never lost them in the first place, and they were probably in his pocket the whole time. They had embarked on an afternoon hike the day before their discovery. The Delphi Murder Tip Line was routed to the FBI's Major Case Contract Center in Washington, D.C because of the sheer number of calls they were receiving. Suspect Richard Allen arrested in 2017 killings of 2 teens in Indiana, Four reasons a credit-card balance transfer may be a bad idea, Dont let paying for a funeral add to your grief, Beware of these pitfalls when planning your own funeral. "My worry is if he is trying to get a plea deal or whatever, then what if he's just telling them lies? It seems odd. The two best friends went missing while on a hike through the historic trails Delphi, Ind. On February 13, 2017, Liberty "Libby" German, 14, and Ab Allen's attorney, Bradley Rozzi, argued in favor of releasing the documents. Id assume the kind that is foggy? However, bond may be granted if the case does not appear to be strong, according to Indiana law. I dont see anyone refuting these claims besides the people on the internet who werent there and want to believe every single last syllable LE says. But does that mean that they are kosher slaughterhouses? His trial is tentatively set to begin on March 20. Recently in the People Magazine Investigates episode on Delphi, Carter says People need to let us handle this case, let what we saw that day eat away at us like it does. They saw something horrendous that day. Begs the question, WTF were they up to? Kline, 27, has never been named publicly as a suspect in the Delphi murders, but he's alleged to have been in contact with Libby, 14, the night before she was killed, police documents show. Generally at organized searches there's a required sign in sheet so all the volunteers can be accounted for at the end of the search shift. There were no stuffed animals in trees. Not unless they were in a relationship for 2+ years and he got a tattoo of her, which I find unlikely, as Libby would only have been about 13/14 back in 2015/2016. Not validated via LE, but its a popular rumor that police officer NM was the one supplying the apparently fake alibi for Mr. X. "It's obviously significant in some way; I can only just hope that it's for the girls, but we don't know. A massive law enforcement presence arrives, and a double murder investigation begins . Theyre seeing evil in everything where theres generally none. I have thought flora & Delphi are connected ever since I learned of the Flora Fire. RE Mr X and keys On the police radio a male is mentioned returning to the cemetery with his wife to collect his vehicle. They supplied each others alibi, technically, without saying CSI guy is a suspect. Apparently that was enough to shut up most of the SPMs. Cookie Notice 0:04. How could these LE men stomach watching Mr X strut around town, attending press conferences, etc? Now I sit here not needing to do it because at long last we have a face to go with our monster, Patty wrote Saturday in a Facebook post. Still, the voice of the suspected. Where are those people? Officials did not discuss the timeline of events or evidence that led to Allens arrest, saying only that a judge determined that there was probable cause. Rozzi rhetorically asked. Ok, thats so crazy that its almost impossible to believe its true. Was it one person who discovered the girls? In an effort to help the public recognize whom they were looking for, Indiana State Police in July 2017 released a composite sketch of what they thought the killer looked like. The team member said that SPM1 corroborated everything that she had told me, so she is at least consistent in her testimony. who is bridge guy and is this a cold case?Please remember to be nice to those who come forward and share their stories.#delphi #libby #abby #ericwilliamsdelphiThe Unsolved Podcasthttps://youtu.be/edb0SEKBtB8#Delphi murders#delphi murders kelsi#delphi murders kline#delphi teens murdered#abby and libby#abby williams#delphi case#delphi daughters#delphi girls murdered#delphi indiana murders#libby and abby It describes his activity the day the girls went missing. The next day, Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found murdered allegedly by the unidentified man Libby. Were going to keep pushing all the way. How long did it take to get everyone together? As usual, they do not want to be identified, but I can tell you that once again, we are dealing with a female member of the party, in this case younger than middle aged. We must continue to be mindful of their surviving family members and the entire Carroll County community who are affected by this investigation., Indiana State Police Superintendent Doug Carter, The FBI has provided assistance to the Indiana State Police and the Carroll County Sheriffs Office in this investigation and will continue to help in any way we can to see justice done for Libby and Abby. Thats after he had been at the site for 18 hours after he first lost his keys from 6:30 PM 2/13 12:30 PM 2/14 and then another eight hours from 12:30 PM 2/14 to 8:30 PM on the same day for a total of 26 hours after losing his keys. Radio says his wife is due to be coming to bring him back his keys and please let her in when she comes. The 38-year-old was arrested in September 2015 on a warrant for operating a vehicle while intoxicated and driving while intoxicated with a controlled substance. How about getting your moneys worth? True crime podcasters investigating the brutal 2017 murders of two young girls in Delphi, Indiana, say they spotted law enforcement conducting a search of waters close to where their bodies were . The document was written by an FBI agent and describes what investigators found when they discovered the bodies of Abby and Libby on Feb. 14, 2017. When the girls did not return to their rendezvous point, family called authorities and a search began. Libby's grandfather did not want the media to move on from this day. The officer seeks clearance and lets the male through the cordon. It's a development loved ones of Libby German and Abby Williams have long prayed for: charges filed in connection to the Delphi murder investigation. Theres one reason I think we can all think of, best left unmentioned, and another, that they were out in the nowhere, possibly hunting but far away from the crime scene. Also Thursday, the Indiana Department of Correction said Richard Allen, who has been charged with murder in the deaths of Abby Williams and Libby German, has been moved to one of their facilities. Allen shuffled his way to the defense table wearing a yellow jumpsuit, a black ballistic vest and his hands awkwardly chained to his chest left over right. On a day off from school Monday, Feb. 13, 2017, the teens Liberty, 14, and Abigail, 13 embarked on a hike after a sleepover the night before at Libby's house. I suspect he was breeding pitbulls for dogfighting. Follow on Twitter: @RonWilkins2. Yes it is very important that there is a Tyson plant nearby in both of the crimes. His name only got out recently with the Leaker leak. DELPHI, Ind. Thats not true. It was unclear Monday whether Allen has an attorney. 00:14:20 - In this episode, the Murder Sheet provides several quick updates on the Delphi murders and the related investigation into the "anthony_shots" profil Grays videos run to 3-4 hours and may contain five minutes of useful material if you are lucky during that time. His behavior and his videos are being looked over with a toothcomb and theyre getting it all wrong. I could be wrong but I did read that. /u/LyonPirkey, thanks for the article. Those with pertinent information can email, abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com or call 765-822-3535. Validated through one of your LE sources? We also have it from two separate search party members independently that they were told to not tell anyone what they had seen. DELPHI, Ind. I will say that the one thing that is certainly proven about Mr. X is that he is suspicious. "It would be great to finally get some justice for the girls. Also and this constantly nags at me, if LE really has one person, Mr X, in mind but just cannot resolve his alibi, wouldnt that name get around in a small town? How many individuals were involved in the initial search? You see, another two victims together (if they suspect foul play?) Ive thought about that too, honestly. There are photos on his social media from 2015/2016 showing his tattoo, so it cannot be Libby. This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. "Today is not a day to celebrate," Superintendent of the Indiana State Police Doug Carter said. Our police sources told us that Mr. X is indeed the main suspect. Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. Hes just an ordinary AFC. Yeah thats not our information. "That's just a common thing to freak out about like, [why]; you know what I mean?" I read that they had teams searching on the second day. The girls were reported missing to police at 5:30 pm. Exactly. I've hardly seen anyone speak about the search party. The search along the Wabash began around August 19, when investigators were seen combing through the shallow waters with metal detectors and scuba gear. I havent seen the tape but a friend saw it and she said he had a huge smirk on his face the whole time. He makes public posts that he would, and has before beaten up men who prey on kids. "If it is related, whatever they're looking for, I hope it comes sooner rather than later. ( as I said, I took this as I would a rumor-type of info and the only thing I've ever read about the crime scene. My thoughts as well. I just cant imagine my peers posting things like that. The pre-hearing courtroom chatter grew quiet as deputies led Allen into the courtroom from a back door. "That is accurate," Becky Patty said. He seemed quite toned down and purposely mellow in his critique of single women. I will have to look it up again. Why would they do that? Our goal is to find anybody else involved in this heinous crime. Our group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far. Thats why Carter was so livid that night because their main suspect was right there in the room. Indiana State Police made headway on Friday in the 2017 cold case commonly referred to as the Delphi Murders. And thats not even the start of the weirdness. Who would be familiar with a hunting ground but a hunter? And the new one we just talked to is saying that she was told not to tell anyone, but the scene was bugging and eating away at her so much that she just had to spill finally. Here in Gary, about two years ago, a special needs woman and a toddler she lived with went missing. Example, women think they got game, they dont.. That sort of thing. Could it be that subconsciously people remember not so much the trees but what was dangling from them as they tell what they saw? Then again if it was recent, makes me wonder if the guilt of covering up for Mr. X may have been eating him up inside? State police have refused to disclose what they were searching for or may have found; however, it's believed the extensive operation is connected to Trexler's cousin, Kegan Kline. These two SPMs arrived at these conclusions independently. The two SPMs both reporting that there were stuffed animals plural instead of singular seems sufficient to prove that there was more than one stuffed animal at the scene. It also appeared the girls bodies were moved and staged., The agent goes on to say, Based upon my training and experience it is common for perpetrators of this type of crime to take a souvenir or, in some fashion, memorialize the crime scene.. The big stuffed animal and all of the dolls would haunt me to the point that I would eventually have to tell someone. Based on his posts, he does appear to have some animosity towards young women, and he is an oversharer. Because sometimes searchers get lost too. To say that all of the details intertwined with so many different people and relationships is complex would be an understatement. The inevitable questions arise. And most of what we have reported is based on solid sources such as search party members, official case documents, and LE sources close to the investigation. omygosh what a shame! A 50-year-old suspect identified as Richard Allen has been arrested and booked into . "Weve still got, now weve got a big mountain ahead of us. If the affidavit remains sealed, Rozzi said, it will make the prosecutors' and the defense attorneys' jobs more difficult since they will have to vaguely allude to allegations during arguments in future hearings, including the scheduled Feb. 17 hearing on whether Allen should be released on bond. Only that there were stuffed animals. Its just conjecture," he said in rebuttal to McLeland's argument. "I don't know what they're looking for it could be a weapon, it could be a laptop, it could be something as small as a trophy from the murders - it could be anything. Think about it like this. Abby Williams and Libby German, both 13, were murdered. The time will come when additional details can be released, but again today is not that day, Indiana State Police Superintendent Douglas Carter said. Though police have refused to comment on whether the river search is related to Kline or the Delphi murders, sources close to the investigation indicated toThe Murder Sheetpodcast that it is. As per the transcript, Kline also allegedly searched "how long does DNA last" in the aftermath of the murders, in addition to Googling updates on the Delphi investigation and searching for information about other unsolved killings, including the murder of JonBentRamsey. However, the agent said, These statements were found to be factually false and intentionally designed to deceive LEOs (Law Enforcement Officers).. The agent said Logan contacted his cousin and asked him to tell that story before the bodies were found. SPM2 also reported that there were stuffed animals at the crime scene. There was no mention of what type of stuffed animals they were or how big they were. As far as whether there was a giant 5 foot stuffed animal left at the crime scene, even though I can see that thing clear as air, that rumor is so insane that I am not going to believe unless I get some further testimony. . Allen, 50, has been. Arrest made in Delphi case: Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams A search party found their bodies along Deer Creek, about a quarter of a mile east. Were not. "It could potentially have nothing to do with the girls at all, and that's the sickening thing about it all, that it gets all this talk, but it may have nothing to do with them, and then I get myself all upset over nothing. Your email address will not be published. State Police say Kline admitted using the fake profile to get sexual pictures and videos of nearly 100 underage girls. Carrie added that everything she knows about it, she learned on Facebook. The killings of teens Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in February 2017 have . He loves the outdoors, but for all his pictures of creeks, bridges, and tents, I havent seen any camo-wearing, rifle-carrying hunting pics that are standard for the FB pages of small town guys who hunt. Crews were being sent out 10 to 12 people at a time to help cover an area of 20 to 25 square miles, Leazenby said. On Delphi, I agree with you about Chadwell. They had been keeping this a secret for all this time, but this secret was starting to bother her and eat away at her, so she released it to a member of my team, a woman. In a news conference, Indiana State Police shared Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi, was arrested Wednesday and charged on two counts of murder during a court hearing two days later. Police have released a new clue in the deaths of two girls a chilling recording of three words. Thanks for your work and your blog. Is this confirmed? As Carter said, This is about power to you.. But definitely I dont know him.". In the audio, police announced, a male voice appears to say Down the hill. Officials offered a download of the audio and asked anyone who recognized the voice to send in a tip. Big Tweety bird eyes. 187 5.6K views 2 years ago THE DELPHI MURDERS - THE SEARCH (MINDSHOCK TRUE CRIME PODCAST CLIPS) Breaking down the search in the case. This is an article with a description of the search - and pictures taken during the search (the day murder victims Abby and Libby were found). "Secrecy of judicial action can only breed ignorance and distrust of courts and suspicion concerning the competence and impartiality of judges, attorneys for the media wrote, citing a Nebraska case. A kind of sick taunt? Authorities conducted an all-day search of the Delphi double murder suspect's property around 10 days before his arrest, sources told The Post. I would like to know when BP appraised that house and when the fire happened, 2 days 5 days, 2 weeks etc.? The public has an absolute right to the information, but at what cost? McLeland said. Press J to jump to the feed. So were all just kind feeling our way and figuring out what our purpose is now. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: People are donating lots of money to Delphi podcasters Mike Greeno and Gray Hughes, which is their right. I do not understand the part about the CSI guy. Based on investigators experience it is reasonable to believe that the creation of an alibi prior to the discovery of a crime indicates culpability or knowledge of the crime, the agent wrote. Its nice to have a serious conversation without people chiming in with what if BG is a woman? (one thing I actually read this week) and other absurd speculation. Clear as day. If you have any information on the Delphi murders, contact law enforcement at 1-800-225-5324 or Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. He has been hiding in plain sight, posting his artwork and cryptic statements on FB, etc. Allen is being held at the White County jail without bond and has hearing dates scheduled for January and March 2023. After. Stuffed animals at a double murder scene are weird enough, granted. Yes, thats one thing I am not sure about. DELPHI MURDERS Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found dead on Valentine's Day, 2017, a day after they vanished while hiking through the woods of the Historic Delphi trails. Theres a puppy sticking out of the bears collar. New information about the murders of Delphi eighth graders Liberty German and Abigail Williams became public Monday, and police have a man in custody. Kline responded. Lot of men his age talk like that about women. If you have information on the Evansdale murder, contact law enforcement at 319-232-6682. He has the whole town on his friends list. Pictures 1, 2, 3, and 5 show the area during and after the search. Discovery: February 14, 2017 Carroll County prosecutor Nick McLeland give update on the Delphi murders. "While theres somebody thats been arrested, our lives for five and a half years have been in a search mode and thats what weve done. The next day, volunteers from the community formed a search party, and found the girls bodies in a wooded area near the trail. Delphi murder suspect Richard Allen, 50, was involved in a domestic incident in June. "If he is leading us on another wild goose chase, then that would be gut-wrenching.". He tells off women in passive-aggressive hostile posts. I keep seeing people say it was a sunken bowl surrounded by a circle of trees. Kind of odd that the most descriptive mentions point out a circle of trees. It looks like a stuffed holiday (Christmas) Tweety bird to me. Required fields are marked *. I dont agree that any of these people are grifters as everyone says. Did anyone from the families join the search party? Travis Trexler, a cousin of alleged Snapchat catfish and child predator Kegan Kline, was arrested in Wabash County, Indiana, at the beginning of September on DUI charges, The U.S. Sun can exclusively reveal. Delphi murders investigation timeline: Review the case through 5 years of reporting. Anyone remember that letter and who that search coordinator was? To me, that explains a lot about why it took them so long to find the girls in the first place. Support the best Delphi sleuthing group of all! LE did not say it was over by 3 pm-ish. The Murder Sheet Podcastfirst published the documents, and I-Team 8 has confirmed with a police source that the document is authentic. Our understanding also is that he never even called her to have her bring the keys. In other words, that stuffed animal toy is over five feet tall! Regarding Mr X, wouldnt the girls have known him if he were friends with Libertys grandparents? Becky Patty reflected on the importance of Monday's announcement, speaking steadily and calmly, telling reporters she had envisioned a different reaction. Or by their accounts, what were they doing? News outlets throughout the state, including Gannett, the Hoosier State Press Association and the Indiana Broadcasters Association, filed a brief Monday in favor of the documents' release. He took his wife with him. Richard Allens point is it will not., Who is Delphi suspect Richard Allen?Indiana town wants answers about man who 'blended in'. A search party found their bodies along Deer Creek, about a quarter of a mile east of the Monon High Bridge. Otherwise I think there is some hammer that comes down and hits the pig in the head. A spokesperson for the Wabash County Jail declined to provide additional information when contacted by The U.S. Sun but said the arrest was unrelated to the probe into the Delphi probe the site of a 2017 double murder to which Trexlers cousin, but not Trexler himself, has been linked by prosecutors. Very interesting. This is still a very ongoing investigation, McLeland said. Citizens? Police initially believed the. 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