How did -- what did think about that? If somebody has an infection, we give anti-infectious agents. That's almost as much as the rest of the world combined. First Published 08/18/22 12:02. read transcript. We're not talking about a handful of people here. This is what he's got left. So, these models that I'm talking about are based on fee for service, then, they are being paid for a care coordination fee. MARTIN: Yes? OSBORNE: I am great. And some people even that are getting stents don't have symptoms. I just had been ignoring it, because I thought, you know, I'm only 34 years old. DR. TIERAONA LOW DOG, FELLOWSHIP DIRECTOR, ARIZONA CENTER FOR INTEGRATIVE MEDICINE: We want to expose clinicians to a broader way of seeing the patient a deeper understanding of healing and a larger toolbox from which to choose for therapies. It includes the mandate, the requirement that we all have to buy their coverage. WEIL: Right. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How's your pain, sir? GUPTA: Doctor Tuckson, I mean, one of the concerns -- and again, we will get right to it, it's simply not reimbursing enough money for primary care doctors. Don't need you, don't need you. So now, "ESCAPE FIRE: THE FIGHT TO RESCUE AMERICAN HEALTHCARE." So, I went into the hospital and they told me I had had a heart attack. We can't prevent disease in everybody, but we have to try. And they have to, these for-profit companies by law have to serve shareholders. It argues that American medical treatment is largely focused on getting people into hospitals and giving them drugs, two profit centers that are hugely expensive and supported by massive lobbying campaigns. I started having really, really bad chest pain. Got approved very quickly. ESCAPE FIRE: The Fight to Rescue American Healthcare tackles one of the most pressing issues of our time: how can we save our badly broken healthcare system? Trying to get Medicare to cover a heart disease program has been by far the hardest thing I've ever done in my entire life. When I had my first heart attack, did the cardiac catheterization, put the thing up there and put a stent in my heart, because I had a clogged artery. And maybe it would be easier to take care of people and keep them from getting sick before they actually did get sick. He had -- he had Percocet then he has Marco which is Percocet. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He was issued the bottle today with 20 in it and 10 are missing. You are going to hear from many different voices with varying opinions and backgrounds tonight. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) GUPTA: To give you a couple of quick examples. I came to Walter Reed. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) DR. WAYNE JONAS, PRESIDENT, SAMUELI INSTITUTE, MILITARY MEDICAL RESEARCH: If our civilian healthcare system is smoldering and we see it's going to catch on fire and burn pretty soon, it is going to be unsustainable because of the costs, the military system is already on fire. Job number two was to make sure that there was not a public option. An Entrenched System. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I lost about 120 pounds over the course of three years. U.S. caregivers are told you've got to keep me pain free, you're going to do that. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I love you, too! The Dartmouth study showed the patients in places like Miami were receiving more care. And finally, keep in mind that what is charged and what is ultimately paid are two different numbers. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you have any pain right now? GUPTA: Doctor Rice, What do you think about that. So putting more money into innovations and all of these things, yes, they're need in certain instances, especially emergency care, and things like that. So, if there's a concern someone has a tumor, they who use a needle like this. And remember that you can return to this place at any time during the meditation. More tests, more drugs, more time in the hospital, more invasive operations than patients in other parts of the country. That's my routine. Meditation takes the place of that. Underrewarded primary care. If we can prevent that and even reverse it, that's how we're going to make true health care, not just sick care available. He was featured in the film. You can export to TXT, DOCX, PDF, HTML, and many . We don't have a healthcare system in this country. Episode Number(s) 1 S03E01 03x01. If you're on a fixed income, what are you going to do for your family? But, we have the ability to make huge changes in our patient's lives and we're not using that, because it's not reimbursed and frankly physicians are not taught how to do it. It was a great life. Ten allotted. We pay hospitals to be full, so they try to be full. MARTIN: And they don't reimburse for nutritional counseling or anything like that. If you get a bump on your head as a friend of mine had, and you go into the emergency department, in America, you get a cat scan. ROSS: What do you think about that? It caused their blockages to become less blocked in their arteries. How are you feeling? That also happened in the 1990s. It's all about the reimbursement. And the actual costs for care here is among the lowest in the country. It's hard to say good-bye to the patients. And what I saw actually made me physically ill. As I looked at trial after trial, there were more heart attacks in the Avandia group. And then clearly we have social and economic issues that impact people's ability to access if you look at our percentage of un-insurers. PROTESTERS: Now. KATY KASCH, HEAD NURSE, AIR MOBILITY COMMAND: Yes. So at this point, we will administer the medication. But I think the economic imperatives are much stronger now. DR. STEVEN NISSEN, CHAIRMAN, CARDIOVASCULAR MEDICINE, CLEVELAND CLINIC: The problem is, if you have stable chest pain, we have very good studies dating back a number of years that show that getting a stint will not prevent a heart attack, and will not make you live longer. Can adding Avandia help you? LT. GEN. DAVID FRIDOVICH, THREE STAR COMMANDER, U.S. SPECIAL FORCES: I can see why there's a link between opiates, dependency, misuse, and suicide. They sent me home with them. The easiest starting point was in the 30,000 non-union workforce, and I believe that within four years all of our employees will get this kind of healthcare plan. It got fast tracked by the FDA. We even found that when you change your lifestyle, over 500 genes were changed. Or at least we think we do. I mean, look at our results. That is chest pain that is actually currently damaging the heart in patients. He is the president of the American Academy of Family Physicians. There's saving money and there's cost effective. So that's rewarding for me. Our automatic transcription software will convert your video to text in just a few minutes (depending on the length of your video). We have to find the right mix of treatments for the guys, and the answers are not in a sack of pills. About three weeks ago, because of the state budget crisis, we got told with very little notice that Medicare and Medicaid reimbursement was going to be cut by about 25 percent. BURD: All right. That is ridiculous. So I decided to leave. We pay doctors to see patients, so they see a lot of patients. Hold them accountable and then talk to them, you know, on a weekly basis. I'm Dr. Sanjay Gupta. And, of course, the natural end point is going to be in the emergency department. There are answers, we know what safe care looks like. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Take them away from him. 27 cardiac catheterization and well over seven stents. But something maybe you didn't know, when you look at a hospital bill, it's not just the cost of the supplies. In the dialog that appears, select the language of the file you're uploading. Healthcare, it's headed for really, really bad trouble. Does it make a difference? And when we work at that level, we find people are much more likely to make these sustainable changes and the patient learns how to empower themselves and to transform their lives. DR. JEFFREY CAIN, PRESIDENT, AMERICAN ACADEMY OF FAMILY PHYSICIANS: We know that patients are healthier when they have two things. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: First one's going in. BROWNLEE: We spend $300 billion a year on pharmaceuticals. And now I'm -- 25 years later and I'm in pretty good shape. People eat what's cheap and what's available. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The army says this is all linked to the rising number of soldier suicides. 2. See you soon. Obesity leads to heart disease and strokes and diabetes. that is going to raise cause. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Came off the mountain with only eight? DR. ANDREW WEIL, PROFESSOR OF MEDICINE AND PUBLIC HEALTH, UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA: Hippocrates said let food be your medicine and medicine be your food. We're spending almost twice as much in America as any other country on earth. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my god. UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Safeway's healthcare costs have remained flat compared to a 40 percent jump for most other companies. And doctors wanting to please their patients will often prescribe it. MARTIN: Can you feel this? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK, I need some help over here. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Not in there? But I decided to give it a shot. You almost forget that what you're doing is providing healthcare. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have no health insurance. I love you. If it happened to me, it happens to a whole lot more people that are almost invisible to the system. How to know if you are being prescribed unnecessary medications or procedures, that's next. OK? UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think we have about 25 patients for today for Dr. Martin. MARTIN: Are you taking your medication? The Issues. On my way. And it's got to the point where the pain's radiating from my back down to my hips and then down to my thighs. WEIL: In Western medicine, all of our effort is on dispelling evil. I'm not changed, but I'm changing. Just sheer numbers, $2.7 trillion per year. The small wire cage you see there is the actual step. It was -- with a huge amount of skepticism and resistance. Thank you all. I mean -- but you have to have the time to educate your patient. OK, so let's go into our meditation practice. Smoke jumpers were parachuted in a team of 15 headed by a foreman named Wag Dodge. Anybody else would laugh, you know? UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Eggs, sausage, grits, bacon. MARTIN: Good. Sometimes I go to the hospital and that's the only health care I ever got. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nine months? You've done some sweating. Some people, this is all they eat, food of this sort. And I had a massive heart attack. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. I mean, to talk about how we shift toward -- away from disease intervention toward disease prevention and health promotion, I mean, that -- that requires a massive rethinking about medicine and healthcare at all levels of society. The next group of people are people that have tried medical therapy, that are on medical therapy and failing. And there's nothing that people sort of get more antsy about is the idea of people profiting off of other's misery. If insurance companies don't deliver value, they won't be in business very long. WGRZ reported that crews encountered heavy fire and thick smoke coming from the building at 747 Main St., after they got the call at 10:08 a.m. A Mayday was called early in the operation. Suture, one that's used in every operating room in the world. BURD: You can't say you're interested in a culture of health and fitness without providing a first-class gym. But with regard to prevention, preventing disease, does that save us money? Came off the mountain with only eight. John than, you'll have to excuse me because you're an economist I'm not. The bigger issue is how do you deal with his enormous prices, you were just talking about with Nancy? And I hope our new generation of health professionals will catalyze this social movement that's necessary and enough people get aroused enough about the situation and see it for what it is and then start some kind of grassroots movement to change the political balance of power. Impressive. And every year they have to turn people away. It's not whole food as nature produces it. For me to spend 45 minutes on an established visit with a patient to make sure they are doing their exercise, make sure their diabetes is going okay, and to try to figure out what their true problem is, probably get paid $15. Driven by these perverse economic incentives, we are doing a lot of procedures to people that they don't need. Expand the Transcripts and captions section if closed, then select Upload. Alvin and the Chipmunks/Transcript. Video: This tiny shape-shifting robot can melt its way out of a cage . Frankly, be suspicious of doctors who recommend one and frankly, think that they're just trying to make money off of me. That was how many medications I was on. Also, Doctor Reed Tuckson, he is the chief medical officer for the united health group. The folks who were there were not trying to shirk their responsibilities. And we're going to be doing CPR on a patient. What that means is, the money we spend on prevention improves our health greatly per dollar spent. 1 hr 39 min PG-13 Documentary A powerful and thought-provoking documentary that exposes the U.S. healthcare system as one designed to profit on disease rather than health. We want more procedures. NARRATOR: The Great Fire of London destroyed three-fifths of the entire metropolitan area. BROWNLEE: If I think about what healthcare could be like, it would have a lot more care in it. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Where are you coming from? You know? GUPTA: I mean, both physically and mentally. I became a doctor because I care about patients and working here, I can't help them. Published: Santa Monica, Calif. : Lionsgate, [2013]. GUPTA: How big a problem is this then? MARTIN: I'm going to make a phone call and try and get some wheels in motion so that we can get you the help that you need. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It wears on your lower back wearing, you know, a 40-pound vest. It's just a terrible tragedy for patients. It doesn't always work. (CROSSTALK) (COMMERCIAL BREAK) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Overmedicating is a huge problem in society and the military is no exception. It's OK. You're good, you're good. And I think those discussions that we between the patient and the provider about lifestyle disincentives. Because they're not using health care now. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No. My energy level is up. COSGROVE: Cleveland Clinic was founded by four physicians, and they realized they did better working as a team than as individual practitioners. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. BROWNLEE: The vast majority of doctors in this country are paid by a fee-for-service system. It's too much paying for it. But I think, to be honest, when you add more people to the system; that raises costs. YATES: That's a healing process because you're not bottling up, it's going to a different section in your mind to where you can start processing it. I need some help over here. My job is to provide the right care for the right patient at the right time. And you've had heart attacks. That's built in these costs as well. Aliens in the Attic/Transcript. ROSS: There have been some trends in healthcare that make me uncomfortable. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Without the financial incentives, there's no way I could have gotten to the point that I am now, at saving literally thousands of dollars over the past few years by being healthier. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have had enough. Thanks for watching. I haven't exercised. BROWNLEE: There's a saying in health care policy that 20 percent of the patients account for 80 percent of the costs, and the majority of those costs are when they are repeatedly hospitalized. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) DR. ERIN MARTIN, PRIMARY CARE: After I'd left La Clinica, I joined this new practice. We want more tests. It's an expensive world to live in in terms of getting your voice heard in D.C., but that's the whole function of advocacy. Half. 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